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CNG to benefit from new mileage rules, state officials say

Tulsa World -- Oklahoma Energy Secretary Mike Ming is pleased with recent federal fuel efficiency standards in the wake of concerns that the rules would hamper efforts to convert state fleets to compressed natural gas.The White House this week announced Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards that would increase the fuel economy equivalent of 54.4 mpg for cars and light-duty trucks by model year 2025.Advocates argue the rules will reduce dependence on foreign oil, lower emissions and reduce fuel costs for drivers.Oklahoma is among 22 states seeking proposals to help convert state fleets to natural gas.

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purplebears Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:9,051 Points:1,163,750 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 2:14:34 AM Ignore purplebears Report Abuse It seems that quite a few people write-off NG as a viable option. NG is cheaper, more prevalent, burns cleaner and is abundantly produced right here in the US. No imports are needed and the production process would support American jobs. Sure, it will take time and effort to convert to NG but it is still a much better option than being held captive to foreign oil. Approximately 25% of the cost each American pays at the pump goes directly to OPEC, Venezuela (Chavez) and even Russia. The average gas-pumper doesn’t think about the fact that he/she is giving $500-$1000 per year to support these “unfriendly” nations. Another 10% of the price heads north to our friends in Canada, but it still means the money leaves the country. Hopefully our schools can still teach people to think for themselves. The choices are obvious but it takes time to “unwash” the brains of some of those we live with. It simply makes sense to move forward towards the use of natural gas or electric vehicles. Most residential properties already have either natural gas, electricity or both already piped or wired to the buildings. In most cases, contractors could extend the natural gas lines/electric chargers to garages or parking structures for nominal costs. The convenience of refueling your vehicle at home would become the new normal thing to do. The downside would be the loss of many gas stations and convenience stores. But in reality is that really a loss?
SammyAdams Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:3,055 Points:792,765 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 5:34:40 PM Ignore SammyAdams Report Abuse Rather than cowering before the lawless and unconstitutional EPA, Governors and state legislatures should be banding together in order to "nullify" any illegal (and unconstitutional) acts by the Federal government and their agencies. All that they need to do is inform the FED that these illegal and lawless edicts will NOT be enforced withing their state boundaries and that any attempt by those who would try to enforce these unconstitutional acts would be subject to prosecution and, if convicted, incarceration and fines BIG TIME. Go to the TenthAmendmentCenter.com to learn how many states are passing State legislation on interposition (Nullification) and how YOU can become involved in this Patriotic effort.
qwerty17 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,655 Points:1,117,900 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:50:54 PM Ignore qwerty17 Report Abuse bring it on.
sljbc475 Champion Author Tucson Posts:4,220 Points:872,375 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:03:02 PM Ignore sljbc475 Report Abuse Time for a lot of states to convert their fleets to CNG.
ktyson13 Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,541 Points:397,075 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 11:20:03 AM Ignore ktyson13 Report Abuse im sure the govmt will figure out how to give away money for this!
crep1291 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:2,579 Points:481,045 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 9:16:18 AM Ignore crep1291 Report Abuse "We need more CNG stations. " They will come. But I suspect a lot of people who already have NG at home will just install compressors and avoid the CNG stations altogether. Gas station owners may be reluctant to install facilities for CNG under such conditions.
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Agarre Champion Author Richmond Posts:1,335 Points:263,785 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 8:13:06 AM Ignore Agarre Report Abuse lets see
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,262 Points:1,741,705 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 7:51:33 AM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse At some point magnetic power will come into play.
A2J Champion Author Richmond Posts:3,075 Points:602,950 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 7:29:37 AM Ignore A2J Report Abuse so ?
Bruno44 Champion Author Texas Posts:7,075 Points:1,768,195 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 5:42:17 AM Ignore Bruno44 Report Abuse If it works out, Big Govt will tax the heck out of it.
nfldude Champion Author San Diego Posts:3,871 Points:446,405 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 3:40:42 AM Ignore nfldude Report Abuse Are highway taxes added to CNG fueling?
rollercoaster All-Star Author Hartford Posts:502 Points:567,660 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 3:00:18 AM Ignore rollercoaster Report Abuse no it's great supporting Mitt Romney,it's a positive factor into this country unlike the douchbag that's in office now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
snky2k Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,398 Points:303,565 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 2:10:18 AM Ignore snky2k Report Abuse Here's my impression of most people on this forum - no matter the topic: "Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama......" It must really suck having to support Mitt Romney.
fuel2use Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,488 Points:733,325 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 2:01:27 AM Ignore fuel2use Report Abuse Its a gas.
krobp46 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:2,711 Points:541,095 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:54:46 AM Ignore krobp46 Report Abuse What we see happening here are the ideas of Obama and Steven Chu coming into fruitition. They are getting their wish to make cars too expensive for most people to own, and thereby making them better able to afford government (public) transportation. Obama's Socialist ideas become more apparent every day
silverfoxv65 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,480 Points:1,230,050 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:42:33 AM Ignore silverfoxv65 Report Abuse Shut it all down!
gasandgoAL Champion Author Alabama Posts:7,151 Points:1,589,665 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:42:06 AM Ignore gasandgoAL Report Abuse go for it
jwalkerh Champion Author Louisiana Posts:6,132 Points:1,368,945 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:32:59 AM Ignore jwalkerh Report Abuse This is one alternative.
HA4CNN Champion Author Toronto Posts:5,624 Points:1,543,390 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:32:39 AM Ignore HA4CNN Report Abuse They need to make it happen much sooner.
Mowerman08 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:4,760 Points:1,217,995 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:30:57 AM Ignore Mowerman08 Report Abuse The OUT OF CONTROL EPA regulating to death.
ItisAJeepThing Champion Author Tucson Posts:19,755 Points:2,151,580 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:30:52 AM Ignore ItisAJeepThing Report Abuse CNG is the way that we should be going. America could easily become energy independent.
mfeldstein Champion Author Ottawa Posts:8,171 Points:1,930,480 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:30:34 AM Ignore mfeldstein Report Abuse Natural gas extraction is environmentally destructive.
Prodaddy Champion Author Houston Posts:8,380 Points:1,895,185 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:28:28 AM Ignore Prodaddy Report Abuse CNG is the best kept secret yet
Hobby001 Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,093 Points:1,184,840 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:28:04 AM Ignore Hobby001 Report Abuse The added weight for ASTM pressure vessels for CNG will cause losses in MPG.
02SilverStroke Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,013 Points:1,344,420 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:23:56 AM Ignore 02SilverStroke Report Abuse We need more CNG stations.
BobD2009 Champion Author Long Island Posts:6,989 Points:1,239,785 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:22:44 AM Ignore BobD2009 Report Abuse Well that's surprisingly good news.
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djgunrunner Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:10,099 Points:2,348,605 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:50:44 AM Ignore djgunrunner Report Abuse If all of these obama underlings support Natural Gas then what excuse does obama have for not supporting it? With a push from obama Government Motors and Chrysler would be selling Natural Gas bi fuel cars, not just trucks but cars for everyone. So what is the real reason obama has for not supporting Natural Gas
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